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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/?p=206&#038;cpage=1#comment-4059</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/?p=206&#038;cpage=1#comment-4058</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may have already seen this, but Slate Magazine did a little video/audio remixing of the hologram conversation:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1716442436/bctid1900392523]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may have already seen this, but Slate Magazine did a little video/audio remixing of the hologram conversation:</p>
<p><a href="http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1716442436/bctid1900392523" rel="nofollow">http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1716442436/bctid1900392523</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael D.</title>
		<link>http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/?p=206&#038;cpage=1#comment-4041</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the tangential notion of your point, Bob, about the so-called continuing refinement of the &quot;male gaze&quot; or the visual image(ining) of the female did initially strike me as an interesting additional point about this &quot;moment,&quot; after considering it for a minute or two, I tend to veer more towards the opinion that it isn&#039;t really worth considering.  I doubt CNN intentionally planned on making the first &quot;victim&quot; of this technological &quot;presentation&quot; female, just as Wolf Blitzer just as well could have been Campbell Brown or Candy Crawley (sp?)...  

Then again, you got my attention, so...

As far as the rest goes, well, to me, it was more of a gimmick than anything newsworthy, although I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if James Cameron was watching closely just to make sure he is still 10 steps ahead with his upcoming &quot;Avatar&quot;  ;-)

As far as the Map goes, it was indeed interesting and informative during the whole election buildup, but &quot;I can make it bounce&quot; is now my favorite moment beyond anything that was used by the &quot;real&quot; guy, and that&#039;s pretty much all of what I take away from that...!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the tangential notion of your point, Bob, about the so-called continuing refinement of the &#8220;male gaze&#8221; or the visual image(ining) of the female did initially strike me as an interesting additional point about this &#8220;moment,&#8221; after considering it for a minute or two, I tend to veer more towards the opinion that it isn&#8217;t really worth considering.  I doubt CNN intentionally planned on making the first &#8220;victim&#8221; of this technological &#8220;presentation&#8221; female, just as Wolf Blitzer just as well could have been Campbell Brown or Candy Crawley (sp?)&#8230;  </p>
<p>Then again, you got my attention, so&#8230;</p>
<p>As far as the rest goes, well, to me, it was more of a gimmick than anything newsworthy, although I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if James Cameron was watching closely just to make sure he is still 10 steps ahead with his upcoming &#8220;Avatar&#8221;  <img src='http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As far as the Map goes, it was indeed interesting and informative during the whole election buildup, but &#8220;I can make it bounce&#8221; is now my favorite moment beyond anything that was used by the &#8220;real&#8221; guy, and that&#8217;s pretty much all of what I take away from that&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike R.</title>
		<link>http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/?p=206&#038;cpage=1#comment-3924</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This male&#039;s gaze gets all heavy-lidded when people start talking in academic feminese.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This male&#8217;s gaze gets all heavy-lidded when people start talking in academic feminese.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Liebenson</title>
		<link>http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/?p=206&#038;cpage=1#comment-3916</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Liebenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting YouTube video trying to reveal the obvious &quot;conspiracy&quot; of the holograms. The CNN guy does mention that they made the image look imperfect so people didn&#039;t think she was actually in the studio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHCi477Ap5A]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting YouTube video trying to reveal the obvious &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; of the holograms. The CNN guy does mention that they made the image look imperfect so people didn&#8217;t think she was actually in the studio.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHCi477Ap5A" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHCi477Ap5A</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Mittell</title>
		<link>http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/?p=206&#038;cpage=1#comment-3913</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Mittell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob - nice account of this odd moment. I saw the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VbOpVU_co&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other hologrammatic interview&lt;/a&gt;, of Will.I.Am. There the Othering came through as CNN seemed to be channeling another type of being - an &quot;authentic&quot; black voice from the streets who clearly didn&#039;t belong in the situation room except via mediated remove. And Will seemed generally just put off by the whole thing, reminding me of some of the more awkward scenes of Zion in the later Matrix films. Yucko.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8211; nice account of this odd moment. I saw the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VbOpVU_co" rel="nofollow">other hologrammatic interview</a>, of Will.I.Am. There the Othering came through as CNN seemed to be channeling another type of being &#8211; an &#8220;authentic&#8221; black voice from the streets who clearly didn&#8217;t belong in the situation room except via mediated remove. And Will seemed generally just put off by the whole thing, reminding me of some of the more awkward scenes of Zion in the later Matrix films. Yucko.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Rehak</title>
		<link>http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/?p=206&#038;cpage=1#comment-3912</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Rehak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jon, don&#039;t backpedal ... I know what you &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; meant. &lt;narrows eyes&gt; Seriously, though, thanks for the mention on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.extratextual.tv/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Extratextuals&lt;/a&gt;, and the hilarious SW clip!

Dan: it didn&#039;t occur to me to ask what you thought of the U.S. mediaspace to which you were exposed in Chicago! I hope you will consider blogging about it -- I&#039;d love to hear how the neon orgasm looked from outside the national imaginary (or should that be &quot;national hallucinatory&quot;?).

I have my curmudgeonly moments as well, though in the wake of election day I&#039;ve largely set them aside. Your critique is valid: CNN&#039;s charade of telepresence on Tuesday night was precisely that, a processor-intensive kabuki. At the same time, I would suggest that Yellin&#039;s hologram merely continues a general collapsing of the graphical (animations, icons, logos, text) into the &quot;real&quot; (reporters in front of cameras) that has subtended the newscast form since its inception. TV news, that is, has always manifested a certain &quot;will to composit,&quot; blending live reporters with representations and visualizations of data and events. CNN&#039;s experiment in holography just converts its intensively, electronically layered war room from a 2D to a 3D environment. (With Devan Goldstein&#039;s fine paper on bullet time still on my mind, we might read CNN&#039;s roaming camera as a &lt;strong&gt;spatialization strategy&lt;/strong&gt;.)

The curious thing to me is that these simulationist extravaganzas -- these virtual Taj Mahals -- remain the go-to sites for reliable, indexical information about the world!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, don&#8217;t backpedal &#8230; I know what you <em>really</em> meant. <narrows eyes> Seriously, though, thanks for the mention on <a href="http://www.extratextual.tv/" rel="nofollow">Extratextuals</a>, and the hilarious SW clip!</p>
<p>Dan: it didn&#8217;t occur to me to ask what you thought of the U.S. mediaspace to which you were exposed in Chicago! I hope you will consider blogging about it &#8212; I&#8217;d love to hear how the neon orgasm looked from outside the national imaginary (or should that be &#8220;national hallucinatory&#8221;?).</p>
<p>I have my curmudgeonly moments as well, though in the wake of election day I&#8217;ve largely set them aside. Your critique is valid: CNN&#8217;s charade of telepresence on Tuesday night was precisely that, a processor-intensive kabuki. At the same time, I would suggest that Yellin&#8217;s hologram merely continues a general collapsing of the graphical (animations, icons, logos, text) into the &#8220;real&#8221; (reporters in front of cameras) that has subtended the newscast form since its inception. TV news, that is, has always manifested a certain &#8220;will to composit,&#8221; blending live reporters with representations and visualizations of data and events. CNN&#8217;s experiment in holography just converts its intensively, electronically layered war room from a 2D to a 3D environment. (With Devan Goldstein&#8217;s fine paper on bullet time still on my mind, we might read CNN&#8217;s roaming camera as a <strong>spatialization strategy</strong>.)</p>
<p>The curious thing to me is that these simulationist extravaganzas &#8212; these virtual Taj Mahals &#8212; remain the go-to sites for reliable, indexical information about the world!</narrows></p>
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		<title>By: Dan North</title>
		<link>http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/?p=206&#038;cpage=1#comment-3909</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Weird, weird, weird. Having just had my first experience of election coverage viewed from inside America, and can see why CNN have done this - I saw five days of election saturation, barely a mention of other news, and no interest in the outside world at all, so it makes sense to pull off a technical coup just to get noticed amid the noise. 

Here&#039;s where I put on my Luddite, curmudgeonly hat - surely it&#039;s entirely pointless! Blitzer is just pretending to be able to look at her: she hasn&#039;t been projected into the studio, so  he&#039;s not interacting with his correspondent, just trying to make the eyelines look convincing. Satellite-linked reporters are always a virtual presence anyway, and I like to hope that viewers are most concerned with the content of the report and don&#039;t care how it is gift-wrapped for them. Bah, humbug. It&#039;ll never catch on...

Goodness, I am grumpy this morning. Hope you&#039;re still celebrating, Bob. The rest of the world is quite pleased, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird, weird, weird. Having just had my first experience of election coverage viewed from inside America, and can see why CNN have done this &#8211; I saw five days of election saturation, barely a mention of other news, and no interest in the outside world at all, so it makes sense to pull off a technical coup just to get noticed amid the noise. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where I put on my Luddite, curmudgeonly hat &#8211; surely it&#8217;s entirely pointless! Blitzer is just pretending to be able to look at her: she hasn&#8217;t been projected into the studio, so  he&#8217;s not interacting with his correspondent, just trying to make the eyelines look convincing. Satellite-linked reporters are always a virtual presence anyway, and I like to hope that viewers are most concerned with the content of the report and don&#8217;t care how it is gift-wrapped for them. Bah, humbug. It&#8217;ll never catch on&#8230;</p>
<p>Goodness, I am grumpy this morning. Hope you&#8217;re still celebrating, Bob. The rest of the world is quite pleased, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Gray</title>
		<link>http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/?p=206&#038;cpage=1#comment-3906</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just to be clear -- the &quot;nothing smart to say&quot; had the subject of &quot;I&quot; not &quot;Your post&quot; :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just to be clear &#8212; the &#8220;nothing smart to say&#8221; had the subject of &#8220;I&#8221; not &#8220;Your post&#8221; <img src='http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Gray</title>
		<link>http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/?p=206&#038;cpage=1#comment-3905</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob, good post. Nothing smart to say, only &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.extratextual.tv/2008/11/of-holograms/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an homage to holograms&lt;/a&gt; at my own site]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, good post. Nothing smart to say, only <a href="http://www.extratextual.tv/2008/11/of-holograms/" rel="nofollow">an homage to holograms</a> at my own site</p>
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